I tumble lube them all in lees liq allox and load mild loads and have no leading problems. Killing power of patched round ball prb the high road. Felt wads for muzzle loading and black powder cartridges. While this is a great mold, i have to give it only 4 stars because of the height of the nib on each ball. This evening i skinned and quartered the carcass of the. Patched round ball gun and game the friendliest gun. Bumping a round ball to the proper diameter is the only way to get any accuracy from them. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm.
Stock up your favorite black powder supplies like round balls with the wide selection of items. Id think that if the patched round ball in those calibers was ineffective they would have gone to guns with larger bores. One of the advantages of the deep grooved slow twist round ball barrel is that you can. Have a hawken style rifle that i want to use a patched round ball in. Jan 02, 2018 if its allowed in your area you can use your muzzleloader for small game too. The 148 was a compromise for the round ball and conical. I also have two custom built hawken style rifles with fast twist barrels for use with lead conical bullets. Poking a long hole in any animal smaller than a fullgrown holstein will put it on the ground. Most modern day american round ball shooting is done with. That was long before the current craze of smoothbore shooting had come about, and getting information about round ball loads for one was essentially impossible. Muzzleloading has come a long way from spit patch round balls, soap and water. Id be happier if it wasnt so high, like you get with lee precision molds.
First i know 54 cal is not a 500 yard firearm, that being said at local. Out of a quality bore, a properly loaded patched round ball can prove deadly accurate at the ranges it was truly intended for and that is 25 to 50 yards. This evening i skinned and quartered the carcass of the deer. The problem with such heavy loads is that few shooters will put up with them. Its a lot of fun to hunt small game with the same gun you use for big game. I found round balls are more accurate when pushed down the barrel at lower velocity. Hornady round ball muzzleloader bullets are a great choice for hunting or target shooting. Felt wads for muzzle loading and black powder cartridges oxyoke wonder wads for muzzleloading shotguns. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity. At ranges from 100 to 200 yards either will do well, depending entirely how an individual rifle works with them. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads. Use of the patched roundball in a singleshot pistol is virtually identical to its use in a long.
I am somewhat confused about the maxiball, as this is my only bp gun that is not a smoothbore. Cartridge ammunition, pistol, rifle, cowboy action loads by hornady 2. For all my muzzle loaders, the most accurate round ball loads is 70 grains or less. Loading round balls for plinking loads shooters forum. Shot loads and snake loads can be loaded in revolvers using wool wads. I have looked all through my search results and cannot find this, so if it has been covered before, at least i tried. Muzzleloader round balls lead round balls for sale.
This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. A high density, 100% wool felt wad, lubricated with all day wonder lube, that will take the place of the over powder and cushion wad. Offered as dry, oiled, wonderlubed, or premium lubed on select sizes. Now im not sure if the patch gets spun off the ball or if patch and ball just skims the rifling but either way a round ball wont shoot for squat out of a fast twist barrel unless you cut the powder down to an absolute minimum which makes it impractical for most purposes. Most often i choose a 425grain conical to take advantage of a. Ive put a swagged round ball through a 300 lb hog at 80 yards with my 50 cal tc, using 90 grns of pyro p. As i recall as i was working up the load all i got over 60 gr, was more recoil and less accuracy. For the tc maxiball, i shoot 90 grains of ffg or substitute. You will probably have to play around with some buffalo bullet conicals and work up a good load for them from scratch. Also, traditional muzzleloader only shooting orgnizations generally require the use of patched round ball only during official muzzleloading target competition. Use of the patched roundball in a singleshot pistol is virtually identical to its use in a.
I settled on a 60 gr ffg load in my 50 cal a long time ago. Use whatever gives you the best 100 yard groups at a recoil level you can live with. In that case you may want to look at rifle with a false muzzle, one of my rifles has one a. However, this mold will actually last longer, and unlike lee precision aluminum molds, the sprue hole wont melt and enlarge over time. I seated the bullet into the bullet chamber part of the chamber with a short starter, then poured the powder in til full, which turned out to be about 80 or 90 grs. I am somewhat confused about the maxi ball, as this is my only bp gun that is not a smoothbore. Do not test any loads of modern powder in your muzzleloader unless you are certain it. Tc hawken and it shoots prbs at a with acceptable accuracy, however not nearly as good as my johnathan browning mountain rifle in 54 cal which is twisted for prbs. Round balls in fast twist rifles white muzzle loading. Oct 15, 2018 i filmed this about two weeks ago just getting around to posting it, it is part of my round ball hunting load test. Shot a lot of matches and killed a lot of game with this load. I filmed this about two weeks ago just getting around to posting it, it is part of my round ball hunting load test. This ballistics calculator is a computer simulation which analyzes the behavior of a round ball in its flight from the muzzle to the target. I believe the size mold has been discontinued by lee.
Home black powder black powder patches wads and projectile. He wanted a patched round ball rifle with lots of punch, and the 1516 diameter barrel provided the beefiness to permit shooting stout loads of fffg black powder, and the slow 1 turnin70 twist allows it to be loaded and shot at fairly high velocity without loss of accuracy. I cant say i made it, but what i put together was a thompsoncenter hawken stock with a getz. Perfectly shaped by a coldforming process for consistent diameter and weight, each of these round balls is coated to reduce the hazards of lead oxidation. These give a dense shot pattern and increased range, without the need for wet fiber wad.
A round ball doesnt touch the rifling itself, the patch does. Precision shooting patches for round ball track of the wolf. If its allowed in your area you can use your muzzleloader for small game too. Dont be fooled when they are referred to as low power loads. Several side hammer round ball guns are available in. Also, the 45 caliber bullets we use in our 50 cal muzzleloaders are not all. Hello, im looking for guidance on loads for my recently completed. Douglas barrel at 50 yards it will shoot 5 shots into a inch. Gently used condition lee brand round ball mold for casting a sprueless. I use both ffg and fffg in my rifles and ffg are more suitable for heavier bullets.
It has been said that the round ball would not do well with this twist. In addition, youll find no mouldparting lines, air pocket voids or sprue marks that could impede accuracy. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. Stock up your favorite black powder supplies like round balls with the wide selection of items we have here at. What started as a small dream has become a multimillion dollar international business selling ammunition, reloading supplies and accessories. The first round ball i ever shot from a smoothbore was actually done with a double barrel sidebyside flintlock shotgun, a twenty gauge. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads and. An 85 100 grain charge will effectively shoot sabots, conicals and patched round balls with equal accuracy. Traditional patched round ball rifle loads for the. Nov 27, 2009 experience everything i have shot with patched roundballs from rifles varying from 40 cal to 54 cal have all wound up stone cold dead dont git much deader than that. Traditionalmldata2 north american muzzleloader hunting.
I read a claim that the best twist for swaged conical lead bullets are 1. What distance do you sight in and what grouping do you get with your chosen load. Now im a roundball fanatic and wont shoot anything else. A round ball is unique among projectiles in that its ballistic characteristics are solely dependant upon its diameter unless its made of something other than lead. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, lead balls, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting. Nov, 20 i used 80 grs 3f with a patched round ball in a lyman great plains rifle, and about 80 or 90 grs of 3f with a lyman 450 gr 5070 bullet in an early 50 cal shiloh sharps carbine. For me, round ball loads tend to shoot higher than point of aim in a revolver and lower than point of aim from a rifle. Traditions ez clean 2 presaturated cleaning patches. I was a roundball skeptic, but still desperately wanted to try them. Blackpowder shooting accessories best price guarantee at dicks.
The 30 to 34inch barreled mountain and plains rifles of the period often featured. Cold swaged from pure lead, they are an inexpensive alternative for your muzzleloader. Originally posted by swampman700please dont shoot deer with a 110 grain round ball. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity. Hornady round ball muzzleloading bullets brownells. Lay a lubricated cloth patch over the muzzle and place the round ball in the center of the patch. Also if you can get a good 54 cal minnie ball mold hollow base conical then you can work up a good load that will do. Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches.
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